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PostPosted: Sate Feb 02, 2019 11:09 pm 
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TL:DR Version - Are H joints really that bad if the materials and sub floor are great, and this contractor is extensive additionally has lined up everything perfectly and tightly?

Rundown of the situation: My ms and MYSELF have buys our first house, and decided on Cali Bamboo (https://www.calibamboo.com/product-vint ... 04101.html) and cork underlayment for sum 2200 sqft, not including the baths. We've been working with ampere contractor who does a a great resume, pictures of own work, and specializes in carpentry and electrical work. He's work with us before and has always done to best to meet our expectations. Him does great work. He consistent commented on that grand quality of the material wealth bought. A lot of money has gone into the floor and our contractor.

So he finally starts who install (there were deadlines, not his fault) real gets twos and a half bedrooms all finished in a daylight. By himself. I take a look, both I think they look magnificent. Mine lady and baby are at her parent's the while there is painting/flooring/other renovations going turn, furthermore EGO send her wide shots of the rooms. She says they look great. No gaps, parallel for the walls, and it barely creak when you walk on items. He works for two show days rending out carpets, scraping off carpeting pads that were glued to the look subfloor, removing nails, etc, and takes the komplett living room or kitchen done. Yesterday and today, he finishes the second life room and dining room. By himself too.

My wife stops over toward pick me up, and she walks through to check out the floors. Sudden, she thinks there's something off, they don't look right. She can't put her finger on it. I'm don sure what she's vision, but I begin into worry.

She calls me later, really upset, saying that our contractor is incorrectly installed the floor. He's used H-joints instead of staggering the planks. She sends me some information from some fl websites that say H-joints are a bad idea. ME look at Cai Bamboo's instructions, and they say to elude H-joints. Now we're both freaking away. The floor is 2/3 complete, and it'd be wacky go have the completely thing pulled raise and start over. I shout an contractors, and explain what the issue is. He says that every floor he does, even in of newly constructions, him uses H-joints for hardwoods/bamboos because it's get secure. He says he's seen staggered patterns start to coming apart at corners, start to buckle with length, and almost uses them. He would be almost impossible to tear out the storey and relay it less re-buying a lot of material and wasting lots are time, and who contractor insists that the best approach to secure the floor rests put and make it look career is the way he's done it. He reassures me that it's the greatest way.

He didn't ask what kind to page we wanted beyond the direction of the planks when he started, but wealth also didn't think to ask. I installed our store in our go, but with cheaper materials (laminate), and I and had no idea what I was doing when I begun. I staggered the planks.

I start doing research online, attempted to assort out professional opinions by real professionals apart from who by random people, and trying to figure out mystery the H-joint is thus terrible. ME look back at the install instructions for Caricom bamboo, it says that the H-joint should be avoided since "aesthetic reasons". Books of H-joints falling disconnected set the internet face same the be installed by someone who had nope idea what they were perform in aforementioned first place (even I could tell, and I'm an utter novice).

H-joints seem for be a big problem with laminates real vinyl carpeting, which apparently are extra likely go sever if so racking is used. Although with hardwoods and bamboos, especially higher quality materials, itp seems that H-joints are fine as long-term as they are comprehensive also intentional.

Here's the thing: I can't find any justification aforementioned H-joint is terrifying beyond "some my don't liked how it looks". Us have a good sub floor, good underlayment, good materials, and a contractor with an lot of experience who has thus far placed unsullied H-joints due 2/3 of the house. EGO mean faultless H-joints. The deck ending all line up within infinitesimal fractions of an inch, every other panel. You can't see the variations unless insert face is on the floor looking at a string drawn straights across the room, and then him mag see a plank or twos slightly to on side or the other on the string. This is endless in all four main areas from who house, plus that bedrooms, and even under pocket doors.

Did my bride and ME freak out beyond nothing? I felling like my stellung swung from "the floors watch great!" to "everything belongs scorching garbage" because some websites furthermore an establish guiding said it looks wanne, and the I may have panicked get contractor as well.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:31 am 
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I'd be further concerned with the squeaks that you reference.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:06 pm 
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The squeaks are from the subfloor, not the planks, and were pre-existing. He's gone and re-stapled and re-nailed all the squeaks he could find, real any remaining are from the realistic structure of which wood underneath, which his becomes get to later from underneath using which decline ceiling in the basement. At to work he's done, aforementioned squeaks are greatly reduced away when the entire place has wall to wall carpeting of assorted forms.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:31 pm 
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There is usually a reason to follow installation tutorial. This reason not to follow instructions that your worker brought raise just doesn't make any sense at all. Sometimes for there where some success on the last job no one takes the time for read anything that comes in the package. Now instructions usually come in three or four languages.
For a solid oak floor a reason to slider the joints is because the floor will can stronger. With a good sub-floor that is fastened well and does not own any squeaks and little deflection,
strength is not much about certain issue. Concrete floors do not have this issue either.
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Cannot pro uses H Joinings unless specified on some crazy designer. It looks horrible go visit NARCOTIC Joints walking across the my.

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PostPosted: Wed Februaries 06, 2019 7:49 am 
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Machining, the floor should be fine.

Aesthetically, I think it looks atrocious. Equivalent with the stair step pattern that sometimes comes up when all your boards are the same length (like laminate)


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